Comments on: Fact or Fiction: Registering RV in a Montana LLC to Avoid Sales Tax https://rvtailgatelife.com/montana-llc-registering-rv/ The best tailgate is an RV tailgate Mon, 17 Jul 2023 19:45:32 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.1 By: Erik https://rvtailgatelife.com/montana-llc-registering-rv/#comment-15731 Mon, 17 Jul 2023 19:45:32 +0000 https://rvtailgatelife.com/?p=2850#comment-15731 I register my travel trailers in Alaska. No sales tax and it costs $90 for title, license plate and permanent registration. That’s it. No annual vehicle or property taxes of any sort. $90 and I’m done paying the State of Alaska or any local entity for the life of the trailer.

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By: Kimberly https://rvtailgatelife.com/montana-llc-registering-rv/#comment-13259 Fri, 01 Apr 2022 16:10:08 +0000 https://rvtailgatelife.com/?p=2850#comment-13259 In reply to RandyS.

Randy – it is doubtful. At least in my state, you’ll have to pay a transfer tax that will close to the value that would have been the sales or ad valeorem tax mentioned above. And the state has some weird valuation thing it does, calling it fair market value or something similar. But it isn’t what you’d see in Kelly Blue Book or on any of the RV sale sites. I swear, I think they just make the values up sometimes – and it is never in your favor.

Kimberly

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By: RandyS https://rvtailgatelife.com/montana-llc-registering-rv/#comment-12937 Wed, 19 Jan 2022 18:13:52 +0000 https://rvtailgatelife.com/?p=2850#comment-12937 Register as a MT LLC for one year. After a year or so, transfer the title from MT to your home state, closed LLC in MT-business failed, sold the condo, kids moved back to your home state. Would this work to avoid some of the potential issues/concerns in this post?

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By: Karl https://rvtailgatelife.com/montana-llc-registering-rv/#comment-12715 Mon, 30 Aug 2021 03:01:58 +0000 https://rvtailgatelife.com/?p=2850#comment-12715 In reply to Gary Gaisler.

I am a tax attorney. I’ve had clients that provide company owned vehicles for executives and employees in several states, all the vehicles were registered where the corporation is headquartered. We have never had any pushback on the Ford SUVs given to regional managers or even the Mercedes E-classes and Cadillacs given to division VPs, but give a Mercedes-Maybach or a Bentley to a division President and an assessment notice is coming about half the time. Or worse, an officer pulls them over. Sales taxes and property taxes are based on the use of the vehicle in the state, not the ownership of the vehicle. And the assessment notice doesn’t come to the corporation, it comes to owner of the home where the car is garaged. Since the driver’s name isn’t on any paperwork, it isn’t some high tech records matching, the cases where I’ve learned the source it’s either been a local cop intrigued by seeing the high end car with out of state plates every day or (and I think this is most cases) a neighbor (or the maid) who’s ticked off about something unrelated. The definition of criminal tax evasion in all states that I’m aware of requires knowingly filing a false return or otherwise making a false statement under oath not the failure to file a return, so it’s not a crime but the civil penalties for failure to make a timely return and timely pay can be significant dollars.

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By: Kimberly https://rvtailgatelife.com/montana-llc-registering-rv/#comment-12648 Mon, 02 Aug 2021 22:41:26 +0000 https://rvtailgatelife.com/?p=2850#comment-12648 In reply to Ted.

Ted, I can’t give you legal advice here. You’ll need to check with a lawyer to find out what the best setup would be for you.

Kimberly

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By: Kimberly https://rvtailgatelife.com/montana-llc-registering-rv/#comment-12647 Mon, 02 Aug 2021 22:40:26 +0000 https://rvtailgatelife.com/?p=2850#comment-12647 In reply to Tommy Rennison.

Tommy, I don’t disagree. Just got to deal with the hand we are dealt though. Call Congress and the state legislators to make some changes.

Kimberly

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By: Ted https://rvtailgatelife.com/montana-llc-registering-rv/#comment-12557 Wed, 30 Jun 2021 15:23:52 +0000 https://rvtailgatelife.com/?p=2850#comment-12557 I am a retired German and do not have an US residence. I am already for a while looking for an RV to buy. Would it be an option for, me as a foreigner, to register an RV under the Montana LLC?

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By: Tommy Rennison https://rvtailgatelife.com/montana-llc-registering-rv/#comment-12491 Tue, 08 Jun 2021 18:21:45 +0000 https://rvtailgatelife.com/?p=2850#comment-12491 My opinion about this whole Montana LLC vs another state is that these other States should consider lowering the high taxes and more folks would comply rather than try to avoid them. Let people enjoy life rather than holding them hostage for tax dollars. If the government were more frugal with our money this would be a better world to live in.

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By: Kimberly https://rvtailgatelife.com/montana-llc-registering-rv/#comment-12443 Thu, 13 May 2021 15:03:02 +0000 https://rvtailgatelife.com/?p=2850#comment-12443 In reply to John Smith.

John,

In some cases, yes, an individual can recover defense costs. But it is very unlikely in a tax evasion case. I would not count on that in this type of situation due to sovereign immunity.

Kimberly

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By: Kimberly https://rvtailgatelife.com/montana-llc-registering-rv/#comment-12442 Thu, 13 May 2021 15:01:27 +0000 https://rvtailgatelife.com/?p=2850#comment-12442 In reply to John Smith.

John,

In Georgia, there is a requirement that when you move a vehicle into the state, you have to register it within 30 days. So the state is arguing that it is a tax evasion to setup the Montana LLC, when it is really owned by you individually and you have all intentions of using it as a Georgia vehicle. Courts can “pierce the corporate veil” to disregard the corporate entity when it is done for fraudulent purposes and in certain other circumstances.

Whether you agree with it or not, you should be aware of the position that the state is taking before you proceed with your plan to register an RV in a Montana LLC. If nothing else, you should factor into your budget potential costs to hire attorneys to defend you in your state of residency and potentially the taxes and fines from not doing it before. There are definitely situations where it is advisable to proceed. But there are many other situations where it is not and it is “buyer beware” if you do proceed.

A Montana LLC is not going to save you money if you end up having to pay lawyers to fight your state of residency. Even if you win.

Kimberly

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